So much to talk about in Liverpool 2 Tottenham 2. Shall we run down the list?
– Liverpool’s excellent first half approach.
– Salah’s brilliance.
– Tottenham’s resilience.
– The atmosphere.
– The goalkeeper and the defence.
And of course…
…the refereeing.
That’s right, The Anfield Wrap gets stuck into the refereeing. It needs to happen.
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the linesmans a bellend
Hasn’t it been clear for years the ref has been getting help from tv camera’s?
It has to me. Why else do refs stall big decisions for sometimes up to a minute and press the earpiece into their ear. I’ve mentioned it on here several times over the past 2 years.
Ian Ryan ruined this episode for me. He talks and talk and talks, it becomes his personal forum about projecting his opinion which results in stopping the discussion.
Listen back, when others start to talk, within a few seconds hes jumping back in and talking over people.
Ruined the episode
Idea for a show – a monthly BBC style Points Of View based on website comments. Choose the best/worst/odd comments, read them out and comment on them. Criticism, opinion, arguments – all is in scope.
Could be proper funny.
Without saying much of anything of substance, to boot!
Jordan Pickford has only got little arms and VVD has tree trunk legs.
Fantastic show guys. Best in ages for me. Love the way that you spend the majority talking about the match and deal with the decisions at the end – sets you apart from all the others.
Three things that occurred whilst listening …
1) Game management
I agree with you. Whilst Bobby F was trying flicks and tricks on the break at 2-3 away in Seville, I was throwing things at the telly. Take a touch, slow up, let the guy run into the back of you and take the free-kick. However, after the game, Klopp was saying that the problem was that we stopped playing (i.e. Firmino was right and others were wrong). Klopp wants them to play that way and I guess we can’t laud them for 3 goals and hitting the woodwork in 8 mins against City and then criticise them for not changing the way they play once they’ve scored the 1st against West Brom. It’s the way it’s going to be so strap yourself in for the ride.
2) Refs & TV. Remember Zidane getting sent in the 2006 WC final. The ref didn’t react to his headset, it was played about four times on a TV replay loop and then, 2-3 mins after the incident, the ref calls him over and sends him off. It’s been obvious to me since then that they use TV when they can.
3) Nothing to do with the game, but it occurred to me during the show that I haven’t heard anything from the FA investigation into Firmino/Holgate (have I missed it). Why’s it taking so long? Have they decided that nothing racist was said and therefore they just want it to go away? It’s clear to me that Holgate thought he heard a racist remark and so he shouldn’t be castigated if Firmino didn’t say what he thought he heard, but surely it’s wrong for the FA to leave the cloud hanging over Firmino. Sorry, off topic I know but I’d be interested in people’s opinions.
Top rant at the end from Neil. Brilliant
– Liverpool’s excellent first half approach.
Yes Liverpool were excellent in the first half. Everyone saw this.
– Salah’s brilliance.
Ditto.
– Tottenham’s resilience.
Rubbish. Average at best. We were tired. Seemed like Klopp had instructed the team to let them have the ball. And they scored a fluke goal (aside from the dodgy penalties that for me were not penalties). If Spurs were so great or resilient they should have scored half a dozen. They had to fucking dive to get goals, including Delle Alli who was at least given a card for his trouble.
Only caveat is Mane’s form. Klopp should have asked him to play on the right with Salah on the left. I think it would have given both of them a break from that usual cutting in, etc. tactic. It doesn’t always work.
– The atmosphere.
It was there for me. I heard the Kop loud and clear. Ironic that I sat at home here in Philly watching the Super Bowl game later that evening, between the Philadelphia Eagles and New England Patriots. It felt similar to Reds vs Spurs the Golden (English) Boys of the EPL.
The Patriots being the darlings of the NFL, while our Eagles the underdogs, roughnecks, or Spartans. Philly supporters are some of the most passionate (probably why there’s a big LFC support here in the city). The number of supporters at the Super Bowl stadium in Minneapolis was 65% Eagles to 35% Patriots. Tickets reached $10,000 per ticket. Many of these supporters aren’t as wealthy, but they went to make some noise, just like the Reds did in Istanbul, and boy did they!
Bottom line, I saw both teams this past Sunday play their hearts out. The Eagles obviously took the game to the Patriots. I think the Reds did too, but they also tired and I heard the crowd rally as much as they could otherwise Salah may not have scored that beauty, nor the Eagles fight back to win. The atmosphere was there for me.
– The goalkeeper and the defence.
Both did their jobs as best they could. We were winning had it not been for those dodgy penalty calls. We even saved one. So let’s fucking move on. We have a bogey team coming up and lots of work to do.
And of course…
…the refereeing.
The FA and the referees can go fuck themselves.
Apparently the CIA will be reviewing the match footage as the 2nd gunman who shot JFK also shot Alli, Kane and Lamella. On the plus side Spurs will be getting recognized at this year’s Baftas, so there’s that.