Lower League Show: Changing Times | The Anfield Wrap

Sunderland have sacked Jack Ross after defeat at Lincoln City, meanwhile Derby boss Phillip Cocu tries to turn attentions back to football at Derby County.

Joining John Gibbons to get stuck into that are Steve Goldsmith from Wise Men Say and Joel Clyne from Totaal Derby County, while John also speaks to Ali Maxwell from Not The Top 20 Podcast.

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