FRAUD: A person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities. Synonyms: Imposter, fake, pretender, hoodwinker, masquerade, charlatan.
After watching Celtic bladder Rangers 5-1 on Saturday I made the naïve mistake of losing 10 minutes of my life reading the replies to this perfectly reasonable tweet below. Do not, I repeat, do not do it now. It is a portal into another world; Another mad, weird world, where experts in stained t-shirts and two-day-old undies know more about football than anyone else, and anyone purporting a modicum of sense is quickly found, ridiculed and tweeted into submission, left devoid of hope for the future of mankind and wondering how someone transformed a conversation about Brendan Rodgers into Brexit meaning Brexit.
Improvement Brendan Rodgers has made at Celtic – style as well as results – is enormous. Does well everywhere, yet derided as a "fraud". Odd
— Oliver Kay (@OliverKayTimes) April 29, 2017
The general themes of the response for anyone who took my advice and didn’t read the replies was that anyone could win the league with Celtic and that Liverpool didn’t win the league because of his mistakes in 2013-14. Both teams could manage themselves apparently, leaving the role of manager wide open for any old chance-taking bluff merchant to waltz in and get a free ride.
Now, I’m not overly familiar with the recruitment processes going on behind the scenes at major football clubs these days but the lack of a vetting process sounds a little remiss to me. I mean, imagine the scene in the interview room when the club’s owners, chief executive and head of HR welcomes you in, gets the initial formalities out of the way, offers you a drink and then asks you about your previous experience.
Tales of the time your Sunday League manager slept in so you made yourself joint player captain manager and plotted a course for a hard-fought 2-2 draw away at Dead Dog Rovers would whet their appetite a bit. By the time you have finished explaining in detail your patented tactical masterplan, downloaded from a Champ Manager blog that won you the World Cup with MK Dons, they will have been asking you about potential start dates, salary expectations and talking about transfer market plans.
“Well, Mr Henry, I have to give four weeks’ notice to Carphone Warehouse so I will probably miss the pre-season tour of Asia, but if anything comes up you will be able to get me on my dinner hour.”
The idea that some management jobs in football are so easy that anyone could do them is, frankly, ridiculous. Have any of the people who suggest it is ever tried to put on a coaching session, even for kids? This thing is a profession. The time, money, energy and work required to be able to even get a job managing at semi-pro level is incredible, never mind going higher than that. You could manage Celtic, could you? Go on then. What are you doing on your first day when you walk into their training ground to convince the 20-odd professional footballers standing in front of you that they should even bother listening to you never mind respecting you?
Say what you want about Brendan Rodgers but he took over at Liverpool after the club sacked its greatest ever player and he managed to convince a squad of players, including Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher and Luis Suarez, that he was the right man for the job. He was able to garner their respect. How? I’m guessing that great communication skills and innovative, enjoyable training sessions went a long way in helping.
Fraud though, eh? Anyone can chat shit and lash a few cones out, right?
The title challenge in 2013-2014 was nothing to do with Rodgers either, was it? In fact, his tactics cost us the league that year, didn’t they?
Well, any team with Suarez, Raheem Sterling, Daniel Sturridge and Gerrard in that form should win the league, shouldn’t they?
Never mind that at full back for large chunks of the season we had Aly Cissokho, who last time I checked couldn’t get a game for Aston Villa, and Flanno, who while brilliant that year hasn’t played since.
Our only attacking option from the bench was Victor Moses, who was on loan and shite, and Iago Aspas — let’s leave that one there, eh?
Rodgers, clearly, created a team able to get the best out of its best players. He took us closer to the league title than any other manager since we last won it. To give him no credit for that is crazy. To say his tactics cost us the league title is, well, pretty fucking demented to be honest.
Did he have flaws as a manager while at Liverpool? Absolutely. Did he deserve to get sacked when he did? Absolutely.
He planned his whole transfer strategy and style of play around a centre forward seemingly not suited to the players around him, trained the team to play a very specific way in pre-season to play to the forward’s strengths, and as soon as we were in a bit of trouble against West Ham abandoned the strategy for more of the same from the year before.
As soon as he second guessed himself I thought he should go. That and the small matter of Klopp being available meant for me the decision was absolutely right. Do the mistakes he made at Liverpool make him a bad manager for ever more? Do they fuck.
You call him a fraud — history probably calls you a bellend.
Has Jürgen Klopp made mistakes at Liverpool? Ask him yourself and he will probably tell you that he has. Does that make him a bad manager? Does it fuck.
The wider issue here though is that people think this thing is easy. Sit in the upper Main Stand at Anfield and get on to the number of people moaning when a pass that can be spotted from 200ft above the pitch isn’t made by the fella on it. He probably didn’t pass it because he probably didn’t see it because he isn’t fucking Robocop, and if he did see it he probably chose not to for any number of reasons ranging from he was off balance, had a man on, the team was exposed to a counter attack if he lost it, he’s not Xabi Alonso and so on.
This game isn’t FIFA. You can’t have your back to play, receive the ball and switch it 40 yards by pressing the X button. It’s not that easy. If you think it is, do yourself a favour and sit on the front row and watch how easy the players make everything look when they are playing at 100 miles an hour. Playing football at that standard is light years away from anything most ordinary fans could ever dream of doing.
“I could have scored that.”
Could you, mate? Sound.
You must have some hidden skills then, given that it looks like it would be a challenge to scratch the bottom of your own foot never mind get changed into the kit. If by some quirk of fate you managed to get on to the pitch there would be a re-interpretation of Operation Anfield Exercise whereby you exercised for the first time since PE and had to have a life-saving operation on the pitch, you big fat pudding.
Who’s more fraudulent? Brendan Rodgers for working in football all his life or you for making unrealistic, nonsensical claims about your own football ability? Do everyone a favour, gang — grow up. Get outside, breath some fresh air, change your t-shirt, eat some fruit and vegetables and show some fucking respect.
Let’s batter these Elton John pricks tonight. They are shite! I could fucking beat these on my own…
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The reverse psychology – I did read the thread… My goodness. How can a manager be called a “frodd” when he does so well.
Not from England, but would like to see Rodgers in England post at some point. Think he’d do well.
Good on you. Rodgers made a respectable show and moved on with class when the time came.
Spot on. The revisionism around 2013-2014 is bananas. Rodgers helped give us some of the best days and nights in football I’ve ever had, I’ll always be grateful to him for that.
Whilst I don’t think he was a fraud he certainly didn’t get the best out of victor Moses who has been fantastic at Chelsea and if they all thought he was such a great coach why did Suarez want to go to Arsenal hardly a massive leap footballing wise. He will be a legend at Celtic as the players at his disposal are leagues ahead of their opposition so until rangers get their financials sorted and can bring in players of a similar quality their isn’t any opposition
I don’t like rodgers, never really did even during 13/14. His personality simply grates on me so I can’t warm to him.
That said though he’s not a fraud not even close. A good manager/coach and wish him all the best, expect if hes in opposition dugout then I hope he fails spectacularly!!
The problem that some people have is the press’s love and overrating of Brendan Rodgers or Brendan as they usually call him (the use of first names for managers that they like does my head in, but that’s another matter for another time!). Whilst it is ridiculous to say he was a fraud (although some of his embarrassing press conferences after poor performances may be part of the reason for this insult), the word failure is more debatable. The truth is somewhere inbetween. While he wasn’t solely responsible for our near league win in 2013-14, neither was he blameless when we capitulated towards the end of the season. Similar to this season, the failure to buy in January was proven to be a mistake, as was the failure to replace Suarez, a player who arguably had been itching for a move upto a year before it actually happened. It’s not like LFC had no inkling he might want a move. The hyperbole by Oliver Kay is unhelpful. It is wrong to say that he has been successful everywhere that he has been; just ask Reading and Watford supporters what their opinion of him is.
Ben I know you say Gerrard, Carragher, Suarez etc accepted and respected him, but Gerrard and Carragher also welcomed Roy Hodgson when he came to our club thinking he would be the answer.
Whilst admittedly the style of play at Celtic has improved, Ronnie Daila, the previous successful Celtic manager has hardly been showered with the same amount of acclaim as Rodgers has, nor has he been linked with Premier League jobs like Brendan Rodgers has. If Brendan Rodgers achieves something in Europe with Celtic then consider me to be a bit of a convert. Otherwise it is fair to say he plays an attractive style of football, is popular with the players, can be tactically innovative at times, but ultimately should be viewed in the same light as other successful Celtic managers.
“I could have scored that.”
“Could you mate? Sound.”
Great article, LOL.
Suarez dedicates a chapter of his autobiography to saying how great a coach Brendan is and he released after he left Liverpool. He didn’t have to put it in there.
Boring read I stopped 1/3 way on.
He lost the league. No offence to him but he wasn’t good/experienced enough.
No one’s arsed that you thought it was a boring read.
“No one’s arsed that you thought it was a boring read.”
If a Nobel prize could be awarded for a comment on an article, this would be the one without a doubt. A second Nobel for being a reply to a comment on an article. Anyone reading it should immediately stop what they’re doing, stand up and applaud it.
Steven Gerrard said that if had met Brendan 10 years ago he would have won the premier a few times by now, that’s good enough for me!!
Nothing against Rodgers he got as close to the title than anyone else has,but come on it wouldn’t take much for any half clued up coach to win a one team league with Celtic!