Neil Atkinson and John Gibbons talk relegation and sackings. They go to Swansea and Hull City to find out what is what.

At Swansea Guto Llewelyn joins us to talk about the brilliance of Angel Rangel and the fact that Swansea may just be long term planning.

At Hull Ben Finney is surprised Mike Phelan has gone despite no win in 9.

All the usual insight from two excellent guests on The Coach Home.

The Coach Home is our magazine show looking at teams outside of L4 and talking to their best commentators. It’s just one of a string of shows on TAW Player, our subscription podcast service that offers more than 30 shows about Liverpool FC every month. Find out more here.