Liverpool 2 Everton 1: Match Ratings

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Friday, January 5, 2018: Liverpool's Virgil van Dijk celebrates scoring the winning goal at the Kop end to seal a 2-1 victory over Everton on his debut during the FA Cup 3rd Round match between Liverpool FC and Everton FC, the 230th Merseyside Derby, at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

FA Cup ties are all about getting through and The Reds are in the fourth round.

Everton? Add another candle to the cake, dickheads. All the best.

Loris Karius: 0

After every day in work I like to analyse what I’ve done against my job description. So let’s look at Loris’s.

Shot Stopping:

“So they had one shot on target. Did you save it?”
“Well no. But it was a good effort.”
“OK, but you put a good dive in?”
“No, I stood there watching it go in.”
“OK, must have been a piledriver from short range?”
“Actually, it was a side foot from outside the box…”

Crosses:

Came for nothing except one he dropped on Virgil van Dijk’s head.

Kicking:

81 minutes. Chip over the top. Easy ball to his right for a man famed for his kicking. Lobs it into the stand.

What is he like?

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Friday, January 5, 2018: Liverpool's goalkeeper Loris Karius looks dejected as Everton score an equalising goal during the FA Cup 3rd Round match between Liverpool FC and Everton FC, the 230th Merseyside Derby, at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Joe Gomez: 7

Loses a point for an attacking header he should do much better on. Shame his last contribution defensively is a poor one before he’s taken off, because he was excellent before that.

Andy Robertson: 7

Really enjoyed how much of a kick off he was. Little Scottish radgepacket. Can’t even remember if he did anything good apart from tackling and shouting but that’ll do for me tonight.

Virgil van Dijk: 10

We can honestly send him back to Southampton now and I’d be sound with it.

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Friday, January 5, 2018: Liverpool's match winning goal-scorer Virgil van Dijk celebrates with manager Jürgen Klopp after the 2-1 victory over Everton during the FA Cup 3rd Round match between Liverpool FC and Everton FC, the 230th Merseyside Derby, at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Joel Matip: 6

I have a theory that Virgil is going to make all of our other centre halves better. At times he supported that theory tonight. At times he very much did not.

Emre Can: 5

Like many of them he didn’t get going tonight. Looks all wrong when he’s not playing well, which doesn’t help him.

James Milner: 7

Some say a sign of a good footballer is how often he’s on his feet. Milner had them all off by doing slide tackles for all of the first half. Great pen too. Happy birthday, mate.

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Friday, January 5, 2018: Liverpool's James Milner [#7] celebrates scoring the opening goal with team-mates during the FA Cup 3rd Round match between Liverpool FC and Everton FC, the 230th Merseyside Derby, at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Adam Lallana: 5

Not happening yet but wins a penalty and has a big five after. He’ll be fine.

Sadio Mane: 5

Maybe didn’t sleep that well on the lovely plane home last night.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: 6

Great set pieces but not enough else. I watched him in the warmup and he was unreal. Slightly concerned he’s boss at some other type of football that isn’t association football. But maybe Jürgen will sort it.

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Friday, January 5, 2018: Liverpool's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Everton's Wayne Rooney during the FA Cup 3rd Round match between Liverpool FC and Everton FC, the 230th Merseyside Derby, at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Roberto Firmino: 5

In his first season he flirted between good Bobby and bad Bobby depending on if he was playing with his mates or not. We saw that tonight and I worry if his bezzie goes. Needs to find a way to impact whatever.

SUBS

Gini Wjinaldum: 7

Oh wow. Best cameo since Lulu in Relight My Fire.

Trent Alexander-Arnold: 6

Did bits.

Dom Solanke: 6

Mad how he played holding midfield.

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41 Comments

  1. You must have been on the sauce early tonight Gibbo!! :)

  2. Fair numbers.

    Migs all the way now unless better can be secured in the transfer window.

  3. Weird man. Karius 0? Roberson 7? Takes all sorts I suppose.

  4. David Irving

    Only one i’d Disagree with is Robertson. Thought he had a great game tonight. Can’t believe I’m saying it cos I really don’t think he is what we need but credit where credits due.

    • Sos but why do you think that someone playing well is not what we need?

      • David Irving

        Was I having a go? No. Was I praising his performance? Yes. Possibly motm tonight.

        Klavan played well recently. Do you think he’s what we need?

        Robertson has played well last couple of games. ‘Alright’ defensively, attacking wise I think he falls short a lot of the time. Had a good game tonight, actually put a couple of crosses in which has been a shortcoming of his in previous games.

        Personal opinion: I don’t think he’s a long term addition. Willing to be proved wrong though.

        Sos.

        • I just find it a bit strange to decide whether a player is what we need based on anything other than his performances. Lets be honest, hes not started alot of games and only has had a run since Moreno’s been injured. Perhaps tonight was a fluke but in my opinion he’s not had a bad game for us. He may not be that foreign or come with a huge price tag but if he’s now properly settled and keeps given performances like that then who cares? I like Moreno for a laugh but this guy cetainly worries me less.
          As for Klavan – not sure tbh. Do they play football in Estonia?

  5. Gotta wonder why karius just watches that ball roll in. Without moving an inch. Like he’s a mime stuck in a glass box.

  6. Gini shout is everything. Had doubts with the sub decision but reckon he’s probably responsible for us avoiding the replay.

  7. Happy to forgive anyone on the sauce early tonight and I’m sure your opinion will change when you watch the game with less emotion and alcohol. Robertson was very good other than a couple of minor judgements about when to support the attack. VvD probably gets MoM for the goal and an assured performance – rightly so for me. Other than that I think the ratings are about right.

    Fu k off Blueshite!! Season over!

  8. Firminio non existent after the holgate incident. Really hope he hasn’t said something there. Mane really struggling with things. Really need to keep couts til summer.

    • My only thought on “him saying something” is Maddley was right there and would have produced a card if it was anything more than “fuck off you bitter-faced c*** festering t*** worm!” Also, Holgate – and arguably Shrek – should both have seen the showers early.

    • I think Bobby called him a motherfucker in Portugese… “filho da puta!”
      Either Holgate understood and took offence (highly doubtful), or a little bit is spittle came out as he said “puta!” and Holgate was trying to get Bobby sent off for spitting.
      Either way Holgate was lucky to stay on the pitch, as was Rooney because the ref decided to let everything go and couldn’t be arsed to blow his whistle.
      Who cares…go ed Virgil!

      • MunchingGladbach

        You’re right, I think. I speak Portuguese (lived in Brazil for a few years) and the lip-reading in this case is easy: Firmino simply says ‘Filho da puta!’ (‘Son of a bitch!’). That’s what Holgate reacts to – so I’ve no idea what he thinks he heard, presuming he doesn’t understand Portuguese. Also I’ve just seen the footage from Brazilian TV live coverage of the game, and the Brazilian commentators immediately noticed that Holgate was furious about whatever Firmino said after he returned to the pitch – and then when the commentator sees the reverse-angle he refers coyly to the fact that ‘Firmino just swore [at Holgate] in Portuguese.’

        • Well done, Munching. You are now appointed to be the official Portuguese translator for TAW comment section :). Cheers

    • RF used the usual ‘son of a whore’ ( I played Sunday League in Madrid for a year- its similar in Spanish) but maybe something else. Why Holgate risked ending RF’s career on live TV ….

      • Hopefully it was only filho de puta with possible unintentional spittle then rather than something racial, especially after recent Rhian Brewster stuff, because apart from being completely unacceptable it wouldn’t really reflect too well on the club.

        Aside from the disgraceful shove from Holgate in the first place what pissed me off was his reaction afterwards, giving it the hard man to Firmino behind the ref’s back. It reminded me of a poodle barking at allcomers when there’s a big old wall between them.

  9. What!! Gomez was dreadful and like Can kept giving away simple passes. Firminio boss. You on the ale lad?

  10. Love your ratings, even when you are dead wrong. A radgepacket is exactly what we need in our defense – that and Virgil.

  11. You got Karius right, so I’m happy to assume you got the rest right. That lad is a stunt double for when your real goalie can’t make the photoshoot. Astonishingly shit.

  12. As much as I’m not having Karius, he’s not saving that. It’s a class finish. So simple that it looks ridiculous but 99% of the time you balloon that a mile over because you’re trying to hit it too hard. Angle changes so quickly and defender as a screen…impossible to get set. Irrelevant though when Virg fancies the winner.

    • Agreed. It’s called confirmation bias I believe?
      A bit sad to see a young player hung out like this. Maybe he’s not good enough, but he deserves the chance to prove it one way or another without some of the shit he’s getting at the moment.

  13. I suggest you stop doing match ratings – its clear you haven’t a fucking clue about football

    Karius – 0 – he was fucking moving to his right as that was where he was expecting the shot to go and his line of sight was blocked by the useless fucking defender just watching the game pass him by

    Gomez – 7 – seriously – did you not watch the fucking game – the number of times he fucking gave the ball up in dangerous situations

  14. Deluded on karius mate.

  15. we did not play well,mid field needs sorting out,to slow at times,but everton made it hard,big sam negative play ,we need a strike now;come back hendo,your missed.hendo haters fuck off

  16. These are pretty gnarly comments after a derby win.

    Maybe Friday night footie isn’t a good idea after all.

  17. MunchingGladbach

    Robertson 8 or 9, surely? Take away VdV’s goal and the sheer novelty of watching a centre-back who exudes calm, and Robertson should have been acclaimed as our MOTM. Got to be excited about Gomez too, taking into account his age and inexperience. Agree with the post above in defence of Karius on their goal: perfectly placed shot; no one’s saving it.

  18. paul ewart

    Thought Robertson was the best player on the pitch tonight by some distance.

  19. Good performance from Robbo, can improve though, especially his passing. A mixed performance from Matip, he appears to just switch off at times. Not one of his better games. The same with Oxlaide Chamberlain, the concentration goes at times for easy things. I thought we missed that creativity of a Coutinho tonight. We need someone to thread passes to Firmino and Mane and Salah whose movement of the ball is so important to how we play.

  20. Oxford Street Maternity

    The ref was spot on. There was always a risk that horrible fat twat would just park the bus and kill the game. The pen made the bitters try and play. Agree Robertson was great. Karius was too busy scratching his arse for the goal, which is unacceptable

  21. The funky dyslexic

    We won! Why so much needle?

    Always go to the ratings first as love to see what people notice about indivdual players. Not bothered if I agree with their perspective.

    I would have given Robinson a 10 for that defensive header at the far post as haven’t had anyone do what a full back should do in those situations for years. That includes Gomez and Trent who I really rate. Still worry he doesnt block enough crosses at source but can see he’s improving.

    Stangely enjoyed the Truth’s balanced views and needly responses. Robinsin is not perfect but weve been searching for a left back that can be a consistent 7 every week like Clyne has been at RB. Yet some people still want a perfect LB but thay guy would only be at Barca, Madrid or Citeh.

    Karius is getting slaugtered tonight for the same reason that Migs, Moreno and Lovern do when they make a mistake even after playing well in 10 games in row; because its repetitive pattern. Unfortunately, Karius has not dived or saved in so many matches now. Seems slow to react.

    Love that we have such depth in RB that Gomez is having a rough time so we just but Trent on.

    Most importantly though; I love that Liverpool won when we have had 100 games in 3 days (it seems to be more games in less time every time it’s mentioned), it was a derby where the ‘form out of the window’ cliche applies and without the want away magician, the Egyptian Messi (or is Messi the Argentinean Salah) and Can being knackered (although Im not a fan of his slow plodding approach to passing or turning to defend – love his bursting runs though).

    Love that we can see so much progress under Klopp that expectations have risen to such a degree that we slog out 3 difficult wins and there is still loads of needle. Would have killed for that 3 years ago.

    Dont even need to mention VVD.

    We won. :-)

  22. If Phil is off then Mané needs to find some form from somewhere. His first touch is well off. Then again everyone’s touch looked off tonight and loads of over/under hit passes.

  23. I thought that a 10 for Karius is a bit too high. I know, he’ll become a world-class goalie. But he was rather average today. The shot was well placed, but the goal wasn’t unstoppable (btw, you forget the “1” in front of the zero).

  24. Redderthan Red

    How come Sammy Lee didn’t get a mention :)

  25. Surprised by these numbers! Gomez got caught in possession time after time on the right, leading to Everton attacks. Oxlade-Chamberlain looks better to me with each game – strong, direct, quick, decent passes and crosses.

    At least we can all agree about VVD!

  26. Love all this needle, you’d think we lost, tbf I think the ratings aren’t too bad, really can’t judge Karius playing the odd game but I thought he was poor and if that was Migs people would be off their nut wanting him replaced!! Unbeaten in 17 ain’t too bad!! Up the reds!!

  27. Why did Tom Davies come on the pitch during the trouble before half time. I believe subs only come on with permission from the referee

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