Neil is joined by Mike Nev, Mike Girling, Rob Gutmann, Kristian Walsh, Paul Cope, Andrew Heaton and United We Stand’s Steve Armstrong as they look back at the trip to Old Trafford.
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I’m sorry, but somebody who chanced on this podcast would be entitled to think that the first half hour is spent discussing a team which doesn’t have a manager.
This is Liverpool in the EPL for god’s sake, not Northwich Victoria…He started with the wrong personnel, took off the wrong MF when he made a change (poor as he was, Lucas at least knew what he was supposed to do), allowed Sterling and Downing to waste what little enterprise we showed. Too little too late is right. The problem is that the same thing happens week in week out. Even when we have won there have been extensive periods when we could have conceded. Even Mansfield had us onthe rack at the end. BR is a dud, and won’t learn.
Hey Kevin, I know everyone is upset after the way we played on the weekend but I reckon you need to take a bit of a step back. I think we can all agree that BR stuffed up the tactics (and probably the team talk too) in the first half, but to say that the same thing happens week in week out is pretty hysterical considering we have won 3 out of the last 6 by 3 or more with clean sheets. Admittedly the other 3 have been poor losses so it is not all rosy but to carry on like the sky is falling in is over the top in my opinion.
BR is a young manager, just like the squad is predominately a young squad, so I don’t know what you are basing your assessment that “he won’t learn” on. To my eyes, our tactics are developing quite quickly and he has already learned from quite a few things this season. Also, like on the weekend, most of the time when things aren’t working he gets them right at half time, which to me is a good sign. You could argue that he should have made this change earlier, but to wait until half-time so you can clearly communicate what you want to do is understandable. I also kind of admire that he sticks to his principles, and I remember people last season saying that we need a consistent style of play we have faith in. That said, I think he played it safe and was punished on the weekend, and it was pretty stubborn not to go 3 at the back against Stoke but I reckon he will learn from these experiences. This is his first trip to Old Trafford, if it had been his third (second possibly) I think you could say he isn’t learning.
The same could be said for the young players (Sterling and Allen) that you and others are happy to write off after a mid-season slump. Did you guys not learn anything from everyone laying into Lucas when he was 21? That was a huge game for them on Saturday, I am not surprised that it looked as though their legs looked like they were filled with lead. I would like to see everyone who is writing them off try to tie their own shoelaces with 75,000 people at the ground and 500 million people on TV scrutinising your every move. It is something they will have to get used to if they are going to make it but as it proved with Lucas, you need to give them a bit of breathing space to do it instead of jumping on their backs when they are down. Especially considering that they started the season very brightly and were required to play many more games than they would have ideally. That said, I am not saying that any of them (including Rodgers) are definitely going to make it to the required level, but just that we will all need to be a bit more patient otherwise you will fulfil your own prophecies.
I assume Kevin is part of a certain cult that exists within the “fanbase”
Speculate about me all you like. I have been watching Liverpool since 1953, seen all the greats from Billy Liddell to Steven Gerrard (the all-time greatest in my opinion) and all the managers since Don Welsh. I have played semi-professional football, and gained a couple of coaching certificates but never coached above undfer 14s.
I feel entitled to express my views. I don’t see any merit in whispering “Don’t tell anybody but I think the manager’s a dud.” I have not burst into print about any of the past incumbents. Right now, my opinion of Brendan Rodgers is that he is a man who thinks he knows better than anyone else, a third-rate Brian Clough. He has Cloughie’s ego with Keegan’s tactical expertise.
I would love to be proven wrong, but I fully expect the lineup in our next game to be more or less the one that started against Manchester United.
If he abandons or modifies his tikka takka scheme I will soften, but I won’t hold my breath.
Sounds like a typical post-Sky generation fan. Although he clearly has a point with BR’s learning on the job, and making what appears to be the same mistakes with team selection and out of form players.
There’s no point getting wound up by being beaten 2-1 by the probable champions on their own turf. We have a new lively looking attacker in Sturridge and a maturing squad. I can’t see the second half of the season being as disappointing as the first. Let’s see where we are at the end of the 38 league games before building a gibbet for the manager.
Some proper negative bollocks on the podcast today and missed the point. Utd went at Liverpool like demons and flustered us. But you could see as the game progressed that they couldn’t keep it up and by the end we were all over them but had given ourselves too much to do. Utd’s tactics were spot on and this is the challenge now for Liverpool to have the courage to play and overcome those tactics. Like at Swansea I’m confident that Rodgers will get the players to that mindset.
Haven’t heard the podcast yet but ManU’s tactics were the same as they always when they are at home against a top team/traditional rival: start fast and get faster. None of that should have come as a shock to anyone, but the team BR sent out didn’t look designed to combat that. His 11 resembled a team that expected to monopolise possession for long periods and wear down the opposition with pass, pass and more pass. That’s us, the mid-table team in transition away at the team currently running away with the league. Where did he get the idea we’re at *that* level yet?
In my opinion, the choice was simple:
1 – Fight fire with fire by getting in the faces of ManU and putting on the same full court press they put on us; this means a minimum of Henderson/Shelvey for Allen the water-carrier (I don’t mean that in a derogatory way), and preferably only one of Sterling or Downing but certainly not both, or
2 – Start this ‘game to nothing’ with a more adventurous 4-3-3 to give them something to think about instead of focusing on combating whatever they were planning to throw at us. So starting with Sturridge and losing one of the holding midfielders (Allen again).
It’s like he didn’t know whether to stick or twist. The starting 11 was neither one thing nor another. It’s not the players’ mindset that needs to change, but BR’s.
That said, at least he changed things around eventually, although he shouldn’t have waited until half-time in my opinion. I’ve got texts from mates at around 2pm which were all along the lines of “we could take a beating here”. 3-0 at half-time would not have flattered them.
Yesterday was a lost opportunity to find out quite a bit more about our true level as a team. As it is, you’re left wondering which was the ‘real’ LFC out there: the team that started or the team that finished?
The real LFC is approximately the team that finished. The problem is we seem to be doomed to a future watching the team that started, corrected only by mistake and probably too late. Lessons have been given but not heeded. Nobody I know could believe the team he put out on Sunday. Doesn’t he watch opponents matches, or does he think he is so smart he doesn’t need to…?
I would love to be eating my words in a few weeks, but I doubt it. Liverpool is not the club to be learning your trade as a manager. Several times this season the evidence has stared him in the face, but it has been ignored; pat-a-cake will not win you many games. Allen is great for tikka takka, but Henderson is better for football. We should have Lucas(struggling certainly, but he at least knew what he was doing against United – Allen seemed not to) , Henderson and Gerrard; tikka takka should be one approach, not the sole style.
I like Calibri. Carry on.
Helvetica isn’t in Microsoft Word… just sayin
Oh, what’s it in?
Appreciate your positivity but I’m afraid that ship never even docked for me, let alone now sailed away. I cannot back Brendon Rodgers. Liverpool Football Club is an institution which demands the highest standards and that extends to all areas of the club including personnel. You simply would not offer the job of fellow at a top university to an undergraduate and then fund his education until he was anywhere near proficient enough to fulfill that role, because in the interim you would have someone not up to the job and standards would slip.
Liverpool are funding Brendon’s football education in a way that only a smaller club should.
Crap squad, crap manager, crap owners. Sticking a bow around it and smiling isn’t gonna change that. Better to direct efforts into changing a truly woeful and above all else; embarrassing state of affairs at one of the world’s biggest clubs than do the ‘let’s back the manager’ talk.
The single most concise and insightful comment I’ve seen on Brendan’s reign was recently on the Echo boards along the lines of:
If you gave Brendon Rodgers 100 years at Liverpool and a trillion pounds we’d still be mid-table. And whoever wrote that is 100% correct for me.
I suppose now we have to go through the usual split fan base crap for months until everyone decides we were right and he has to go. That time would better spent sucking Rafa’s balls.
Oh here we go. The cult are at it again. Me thinks that it’s a certain type of “fan” that needs to be dumped and not one of the most talented managers in the game.
This summed the game up for me yesterday:
After slow, backwards and sideways passing with NO movement from players between the Defence and midfield, (inviting pressure onto us) Downing is played into space with only Evra to go in front… he collects the ball in space and instead of taking his man on or driving forward, he turns and runs away literally and passes the ball backwards.
I just thought that the podcast was a little too miserablist this time. Yes we’re dismayed by the first half but we shouldn’t let that distort the analysis.
Its a young team – no wonder, at Old Trafford, they were a bit unsure about the ‘hold ’em back’ first half but then threw themselves into the ‘let em have it’ second half.
It wasn’t a case of nothing left to lose for the second half, it was a week of training with Sturridge + Sturridge signalling ATTACK !
It was a ‘management’ problem – if only because BR was the only individual who could and did solve it – but not a straightforward one. It wasn’t just ‘tactical’ on its own, it wasn’t just individuals having a ‘mare but a complex combination of both. It is true that Man U could have got a lot more in the 1st half but then there were many ridiculous unforced mistakes from Liverpool that its difficult to rationally analyse it.
I tend to agree – especially about the point you make on the second half. I think it was overplayed on the pod today that at 2-nil down the pressure was off.
Tell me there isn’t pressure to go further behind. Can you imagine the tone of the pod and from all the responders if that 2-nil deficit turned to 4-nil.
I think the tactics were poor at the start and corrected well. I think even with the poor tactics, we got to halftime only down one.
I think we all need to watch the alarmist responses a bit.
I think some stark perspective is required here. The 1st placed team in the league with a record of 9 wins, 1 loss and a goals scored / conceded ratio of 2:1 beats the 8th placed team in the league by 2 goals to 1.
Yes, it can be argued that the last 30 minutes performance was far better than the previous 60, but that’s still no guarantee it would have been sufficient to get a result. In 90% of home games this season United’s philosophy has been “whatever you score, we will score at least one more”.
One of the key failings levelled at Liverpool in recent years has been an inability to put away lower placed teams yet able to pull off results against top teams. The past couple of months, Stoke and Villa aside, it looked like that has been changing which I think has to be seen a sign of progress. I’m far more interested in how we do in our upcoming home matches against Norwich and West Brom than a smash and grab point against the league leaders. Six points from those two games is the bigger picture. And the bigger picture also means not judging Rodgers until the end of the season – not match by match.
Before we start, my font: Elephant (Is there look it up) If you mess with it , it’ll sit on you.
For years now, the only to get at Man U was to get intheir faces. Man mark if necessary. BR, on Sunday set up to snatch a draw, when that did not work he finally released Gerrard and went with a proper 4-3-3 by having Suarez, Borini, and Sturridge on. Whisky face’s response get on to two extra centre-halves to cope. He may have hit on his best line up by accident, much like Bobby Robson in the World cup.
Having said that, against united, we needed, some one with hunger and desire to harry and chase them, why then did he not start with Henderson and Shelvey ? The former being in form and the latter makes sure his presence geteed. We need legs to do the running for Gerrard, are you going to get that from Allen?
The podcast pointed out that their second goal was offside, something I shouted at the screen at the time. Bring in Video evidence! (joke) I believe BR supporters are now struggling to justify his appointment. I point to two things, HE is not learning from his mistakes, otherwise why drop Henderson despite being in good form, persisting with Allen and Sterling even though their form has dipped so alarmingly. The other is playing the ball from the back, the back pass to the keeper has to sorted out on the training ground, why do we keep making this error.
Are we saying that 8 th is good enough with a cup run? I’m not and Kenny got the sack for it.
That’s not the reason Kenny got the sack.
You can dress it up but that was the terms of his contract, “4th is the minimum possible requirement”. Houllier and Benitez also had it in theirs.
There’s a reason Fenway came out and stated that Rodgers did not need to worry about it.
Sorry Bob but Kenny got himself sacked. It’s not the eighties, you can’t just bark at the media unless you’re a Sir & if you want to wear tracksuits you manage Stoke. As sad as it maybe, its’s true. And if you did get your way Bob then it wouldn’t be Kenny that would be replacing Brendan, nor Benitez either for that matter, more likely to be a Mark Hughes. So be careful what you wish for.
I see the pendulum is most certainly at full swing to the left this week with all of the negativity.
I keep hearing the comment “Liverpool is not the club to be learning your trade as manager.” Sorry, but Liverpool is a 6th – 10th place club and has been for 3 seasons – time for our collective fanbase to admit this to themselves and accept it. For the right manager, it’s exactly the right club to learn, develop and perfect your trade. It’s a very unique situation and Rodgers is one of very few “right managers” for the club as it stands today. Yes, the club has the right to demand the highest standards but there’s no reason it shouldn’t develop those standards within itself.
Regarding the United game. It was attitude that was missing in the first half and yes, this sits with Rodgers. Sturridge and Borini are not 90min players at the moment so Rodgers had to go for a more containment approach for the first 45. I agree that Allen needs a break, in fact he needs to hit the weights and bulk up a bit but it wasn’t subbing Allen that made the difference. The difference was pulling Suarez a few yards deeper and putting Sturridge in front of him to stretch the play. Allen was knackered after being ganged upon in midfield by this point but the changes up front pulled their midfield deeper and gave him space and time to operate in – he was much more effective and we we’re already playing a hell of a lot better before we saw Hendo come on. People writing Allen off as a player are blind. That said, I would like to see him given a rest for a few games and see what the new hulked up Henderson can do over 90mins.
The fact is we lost by one goal. A very clever and quality player in Wellbeck going down very, very easily with no contact to the feet or legs from Skertel. Evra’s header’s going across the front of goal until Vidic’s offside headed deflection. We were undone be Van Persie being at very, very peak form and Wellbeck. Sturridge had 3 good chances that will go in on other days.
Sterling was non-exisent in the game also, too much too soon for him I think. I’m glad Borini’s on his way back, Raheem, like Allen needs an extended break.
People calling for Rodger’s head – laughable, so fickle it’s untrue. You’d have to be blind not to see the potential in him….but he’s won nothing has he so he must be crap? I know, let’s give Di Matteo a ring, he’s free and he won the CL and FA Cup last season.
Good Man/ Woman DJR, at last someone with brain & a bit of perspective.
Anyone who takes the time to follow our next generation and see’s the improvement since Brendan has arrived and even in the huge improvement since Alex Ingletorp took over only a few weeks ago will not question Brendan’s judgement. It’s football and it’s fantastic football, & when you get the players young enough to be educated in it, they look so natural playing that way. That’s Brendan’s dream for the first team.
Unfortunately Brendan is stuck with a good few first team squad members that he wouldn’t touch with a barge-pole but it will take a few windows to move them on. But, ultimately we will be very successful under Brendan in the medium to long term. The youth coming through are coming as a whole team this time & not just the odd jewel like Stevie in the past. In future we will only need the odd bid of top top quality to be added and there should no longer be a need for journey squad players like under previous regimes.
That might not please certain people, in fact, sometimes you think some enjoy the moan more than a win. Some people should take a little break from the game, come back in two seasons when we are sitting in the top three & challenging again.
Quite right but, would it not have been better to play on the front foot and start with Sturridge and or Borini and take them off when tiring. Sterling coming on then might have give them something to wory about.
BR knows he has a problem in midfield with the lack of fitness of Lucas, but here we are halfway through January and no sign of a new recruit other than Sturridge. We desperately need another midfielder of that type.
Hindsight’s 20/20 mate.
I can see why Brendan went with the strategy he did. How many times have Utd started slowly this season, gone behind in the first 45 and then rallied in the 2nd half with some very effective attacking play and won it?
I’d hazard a guess and say Rodgers thought that leaving the strikers off in the first half and trying to keep possession would be enough to prevent them from scoring. Bring them on in the 2nd half and the play would be very stretched for both sides with both attacking more. We definitely had the better of a near full strength Utd (minus Rooney) in the 2nd half and that’s the positive to take from it.
Let’s be honest. Both of Utd’s goals were preventable (one of them arguably disallowed)and Rodger’s plan may well have worked on another day. Agger could’ve and perhaps should’ve done better, got a toe in front of Van Persie for the first. Lucas and Skrtel were all at sea for Wellbeck’s freekick and to let Evra of all people get a head on the set-piece is a simple defensive error that should’ve been eliminated at Melwood a long time ago. Rodgers (and the defensive coaching staff) rightfully should take the flack for that.
The fixture came too soon. A fully fit Lucas wouldn’t have left Allen so exposed and the balance would have shifted favourably. Sterling was pretty ineffective also. The combined affect was almost like 11 v 10 at times.
These are the circumstances we find ourselves in with the current set of players. It could’ve been so much worse though. My only real disappointment as I said was the lack of venom in our play in the first half – we were a soft touch, that has to stop and Brendan is accountable for that one.
Real momentum in the club and the team is going to take many seasons to build and you have to start somewhere. The team and us as supporters have no option other than to absorb the bumps in the road.
Jesus DJR you have to be Brendan himself
Hi Josek. Nope, not Brendan thankfully. Critiquing is easy, managing Liverpool isn’t. I’d last precisely 5 minutes.
I watch a lot of Scottish football and all I can say is ‘Victor Wanyama’.
Well, that’s not *all* I can say, but I think he is exactly the sort of player we’re missing. A real physical presence in the middle of the park and at 21 he fits the bill so far as our policy of only signing players just out of nappies is concerned.
Before anyone mentions the relative mediocrity of the SPL, check out his performances in the CL against Europe’s top dogs.
He’ll go somewhere in the next window for big money.
Yeah seen him against Barce, he was awesome. Apparrently lots of clubs are in for him, hope BR reads this.
I take your point on the goals, its just annoying the press aren’t even looking at it.
The press seem to simply elaborate on the match commentary Bob. If Champion and co don’t highlight it every journo south of the Guardian and Telegraph seems too lazy or unimaginative to write a balanced match report.
I was watching from New York (moved out here 7 years ago) and the commentary team (not sure of their names) were so pro United it was untrue…it simply sets the wrong tone and provides an easy narrative for the journos to soak up and spout drivel.
If you think that Liverpool don’t belong in the same company as Real Madrid,Barcelona,Inter Milan,AC Milan,Bayern Munich don’t read any further.
I’m just about fed up with all this talk about Brendan needs time;he’s learning as he goes;we need a few years.
Do you think that we are in the 1960’s?Do you think that he’s the New Shankly?
Things have moved on.No Manager of LFC should need a few years to make us a half-decent team.We were at least a half-decent team last year.
Why would we need a Manager who has to start from scratch and start again?Have we just been promoted from the 2nd Division or something while I was asleep?
All this mythology about the Shankly days is exactly that.A Myth!It was the 1960’s we were in the doldrums .We took a gamble and it paid of and we never looked back.And Shankly built a dynasty.
Why are we looking back now?Rodgers isn’t Shankly;never will be!
So what do you suggest Brian? sack Rodgers? get in who? how long does he get before your crying for him to be sacked 12 months?
You can’t keep getting new managers in with their coaches and tactics and start again over and over, its f******* madness.
We lost to the team who are 7pts clear at the top of the league, narrowly. We have played some good football and i think the signs of something good are beginning to appear.
Along the lines of what DJR said. If BR had come in directly after Benitez and produced these kind of results, I would be right along with you in calling for his head, and question why we got someone so inexperienced to take over our great club. But he didn’t, he came in after we were royally Hodged by our former owners (spit on ground). Followed by us fans trying too literally to relive our past with Kenny, who, along with Comolli, manged to dig us even further into a hole, such that we would have finished ~13-14th on the form of the second half of the season. I’m sorry, but I don’t think we came close to being half-decent (two words: Charlie Adam).
That’s the reality of it. None of the big name managers wanted to come near us at the start of the season (except Benitez who would have been my choice, but I accept he would have come with a lot of baggage, and Van Gaal who is a madman), and why would they risk their reputation trying to resurrect the train wreck our club had become? As you said, when we took a punt on Shankly we were in the doldrums, and while we were not in the second division at the start of the season, we were/are still along way off the top of the league, so I don’t think we had many options but to take a punt on a young, up-and-coming manager.
Also, it is not the 80’s and 90’s anymore when we had superior buying power compared to the clubs around us (except Man U). We can’t even get close to players when either City or Chelsea are in the picture (although FFP seems as though it might have some effect, fingers crossed). So the only approach is to be patient and slowly build up our team like Tottenham have done over the past few years, so we are once again in the CL and then have a shot at attracting some the world’s hottest prospects again.
Sorry Brian but I think you’re going to have to take a deep breath and accept where we are. You’re going to stay frustrated otherwise.
Have you not noticed that all of the elite, proven managers out there only ever move to massively wealthy or clubs that are already on top (or both in some cases)? It wasn’t like we had Guardiola, Mourinho and Hiddink beating down the Shankly Gates after Kenny’s departure asking for his job was it?
Even if we did have shed loads of money we wouldn’t be allowed to spend it under FFP. The football world is changing and we have to adapt.
What we’ve got is a manager with huge promise (in my opinion). He gets it and is willing to do it the only way; the hard way, piece by piece over a number of seasons.
No point in looking back and comparing teams of the past with the one that played Utd at the weekend. No point in comparing Rodgers to past managers either.
There is no instant solution I’m afraid. There’s no guarantees that we’ll ever hit the heights we once did. Surely though, if we do take that premiership title it’ll feel amazing having watched the near death of the club, its resurrection and it’s fight back to the top. That has to be more gratifying than doing a Chelsea or City.
You’re talking sense. One day it’ll happen. Before that we’ll qualify for the Champions League, and that first night at Anfield alone will be incredible. It’s about the stepping stones, or milestones, on the road to getting LFC back where we belong. Not due to any ‘right’ or because of our history, but through determination, hard graft and some glorious football. There will be some set-backs along the way, but in two to three seasons we’ll see.
In the meantime, let’s sort Norwich out on Saturday.
I’m conflicted on this. I definitely don’t want BR forced out. We are not one of those basket case clubs that changes manager every few months the second things stop going perfectly…although this was partly my rationale for believing Dalglish should have been given more time. Just as some people above are premature in writing off BR, so others are reinterpreting last year as an unmitigated disaster when, given everything Dalglish had to deal with and where we were in our evolution as club, it was anything but.
It’s interesting to contrast LFC under Kenny versus the incarnation we have today. Last year, across all competitions, we registered wins against ManU, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton. It’s possible we could still do the same again, but at time of writing we haven’t beaten a single team in the 1-7 slots in the PL. Whilst last year our problem was breaking down so-called inferior teams who parked the bus, this year we’ve struggled against higher calibre opposition. It’s therefore at least arguable that our overall quality was higher last year. Does this mean BR is doing a crap job? Not at all, but equally I don’t recognise this picture painted of LFC under KD of a team going nowhere with no hope of improvement. The injuries, missing Suarez for 8 games and sheer bad luck were all worse last year. Add to that 7(?) new squad additions and I think it’s inconceivable 2012-13 under KD would not have seen improvement. League form tailing off towards the end of last season was a simple consequence of having nothing of note to play for once we were robbed by Arsenal at home shortly after winning the league cup. it shouldn’t happen, but it does. And if, as has been suggested above, Dalglish was sacked for wearing tracksuits and refusing to suck the balls of our execrable media, then I’m not sure that’s makes us any better as a football club than the sort that sacks managers after half a season of underachievement.
Given FSG have no plans to judge Rodgers using the same criteria applied in the case of Dalglish (this year, finishing fourth is not a requirement even if you don’t win a cup, it seems), it’s clear to me the booting of Dalglish was more to do with FSG’s belief in ‘a way’ than any objective assessment of achievement. It’s their club, it’s their decision, but spare me the historical rewrite.
On the ManU game, there is a lot of excuse-making for Rodgers going on above. Yes, you can examine each goal we conceded and nearly scored and make a case for a draw, but it doesn’t require the same number of “ifs” and “buts” to conclude we were lucky not be going in at half-time 3 or 4 down. That we did not owes nothing to anything Rodgers did. I think the best thing to do here is admit he got it badly wrong with that team selection – and I, for one, didn’t need hindsight to come to that conclusion – and move on. I don’t want him out because he ballsed up one game by picking players out of form to play a system that was doomed to fail, but if he is right that we don’t lack quality and just consistency, then eventually he does need to show some signs that he is capable of putting out a team that can properly mix it with the big boys.
I’ll give him time to do that – more time than FSG gave Kenny – but my patience is not inexhaustible it shouldn’t need to be…not if we’ve got the quality BR insists we have.
What progress has BR made? What improvement? Where? Show me. There isnt any.
Talk of progress from younger players, Joseck? Sure there has been some. That has absolutely nothing to do with BR but with previous management coaching staff, eg Rafa, Paco, Rodelfo – NOTHING TO DO WITH RODGERS.
Only a fool would say that BR will prove successful medium to long term. Really? Based on what evidence? Then to back up with your crazy comment with the old: “I’m a bigger LFC fan than you , through the wind and the rain”, blah, blah,blah. This is a discussion forum. If you don’t like the opinions of others then go else where.
BR = mid table. I hope to god that I’m wrong….but alas I doubt I am.
Thank you and good night.
One of our problems over the past few years has been our inability to beat bottom half of the table teams at Anfield. I now expect us to beat these teams comfortably. One could say that is progress in itself. Now we need to move to the next level and beat the top half teams. One step at a time. We’ve fallen along way over the past few years. I don’t think we’re ‘there’ yet but I certainly think we’re on our way.
I will no longer be commenting/reading/listening any more due to the overwhelming amount of [email protected] from some blind fans.
thank you and good night.
Hi Stephen,I know what you mean;but I think you’ll still be tempted to have the odd look.
From what I see there is some kind of “Snake Oil Medicine Show” going on.”We’ll only buy players who are under 22 years old for less than they’re worth then sell them for loads of money!” Oh put me down for some of that! “We’ll play pass and move!”Fantastic! “We’ll take a young cheap Manager who’ll last us for the next 30 or 40 years”Why didn’t I think of it!
Then when the sh#t hits the fan they disappear behind a curtain.
As somebody once said…”You can fool all of the people some of the time…..you can fool some of the people all of the time…..
But the stark reality is that we’ve had almost 40 games now and if there’s any real improvement then I haven’t seen it yet.Talk all you like about luck and possession and if only…
Somebody said the top Managers weren’t bursting through the Shankly Gates?I bet if the money was on the table they would have done so.
Anyway I’m rambling again now.I’ve supported Liverpool for over 50 years,I’ve attended well over 1,000 games;home and away.I’m steeped in the “Liverpool Way”.
I just can’t accept how some here are content to go back to square one and start all over again.”Give time,be patient,we need to give everybody a few seasons.
Do we? Why?
I remember people here insisting that Hodgson should be given 3 or 4 years.I remember hearing and seeing that we needed to persevere with him.
Did we? Why?
The writing’s on the wall here!