Neil, Phil, Andy. Nick, John Gibbo, the returning Mike Girling and AFC Liverpool’s Chris Stirrup chat about the on/off/definitely maybe exit of Andy Carroll, the potential loss of Martin Skrtel, the Toronto friendly and the HJC memorial.
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Efficient editing and uploading. Good work chaps!
So desperate to listen to taw for like a year, yet everytime i try downloading to my htc desire it starts to download then says ‘download interrupted cannot be resumed’ wtf, any advice anyone, sooo frustrating
Tap that pop up message to get it off of your screen. When you see the file in the list of downloads (will probably say something along the lines of “Download unsuccessful”) long press on it. Another pop up should appear asking if you wish to resume the download.
I have an Android phone also. Happens to me all the time.
Being that TAW is a podcast, you’d be better off just using a podcast app. I use beyondpod. Have it set up to automatically d/l my selected casts once they are available.
Great advice thanks Steve & Kenneth
Ben, have you tried using different apps? I’ve never had a problem with DoggCatcher or DoubleTwist. Have you tried using a WiFi connection?
Perhaps resetting your phone to factory settings would help?
Also, you could always listen on your PC :)
Good shit again.
On Carroll – I think Rodgers is probably correct to look at him as a £17-20m makeweight. I do like Andy but we aren’t playing a high tempo, direct style next season and we don’t have Gareth Bale playing one wing and Antonio Valencia playing the other. We are absolutely not going to be playing to Andy’s strengths and that’s how Rodger’s got 20% extra out of players… playing to their strengths. He works with players whose best attributes serve the role he wants them to play in the system. The comparisons to Ibrahimovic playing for Barcelona are a million miles apart: Ibra is one of the most technically gifted forwards on the planet. Carroll is nowhere near that. If we can get a decent sum for him and bring in another forward who is a lot better on the deck, more mobile and quick thinking then that is a lot closer to the type of forward that Rodger’s is going for.
Look at the goal Morgan scored on the weekend. Carroll hardly ever gets in those positions to score those.
As much as I would like to see big Andy stay, we are again faced with the decision to back BR regardless of what we think are his motives. AC is no Ibrahimovich. Watching Zlatan drag Sweden through those three games was a performance as good as any other player at the Euros. Countless times when AC played his lack of mobility and his inability to move about the box must have caused Kenny plenty of sleepless nights, especially considering how Kenny used to play. In hindsight, the enigma that is Andy will, in time be justifiably the reason for Kenny’s demise not Slurgie’s latest attempt at undermining LFC. Strange how Downing and Adam have so far avoided the scrutiny, the suggestion that AC is the only player with decent resale value, though it be far less than was paid, seems feasible, as the other two would doubtfully bring eight mill as a package. I hope for this seasons sake we manage to find a place for Aquilani, that he and Borini can link up while Suarez creates his usual havoc. We have to hope, and keep the faith.
bit harsh on Pacheco there Andy – how old was he under Rafa and then Hodgey didnt play a system that could incorporate him and as you’ve all said, the man doesnt like youngster. Kenny sent him on a loan that was probably needed anyways so, bit harsh on the lad for me!.
I think many fans’ hearts are torn about Andy: we desperately want him to stay and show what he can do, and yet there are major doubts that he can play in BR’s system. But if he goes now, we will never find out, and we will be most likely a bit bitter seeing him scoring goals for some other team, especially if it is a Premier League side…
I still think that he adds another dimension to the game, and he should be given at least a chance. BR should try and incorporate him in his game, and my guess is that he will give it a try.
But of course, the most important thing now is to keep Skrtel and Agger, at any price, offer them improved contracts and all.
We have a very few real assets in players: Gerrard, Suarez, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Reina. They are the star world class players, and, I understand the importance of keeping the wage bill tidy, but they are really important to the team and to the club, and should be treated accordingly. Lose any of them now, it may have a very negative impact in terms of our ability of attracting good players, competing on a high level on the pitch, and it will of course frustrate fans in every sense. So, basically, the club may save a few grand on wages, but at the end of the day, the losses may be heavier.
Besides, the “not-so-star” players should always have an incentive: play like [insert your fav player’s name here] or better, and you’ll be offered a better contract.
Otherwise, we’ll become an Arsenal… a feeding club for the big sharks. And that’s just wrong, cuz WE should be among the big nasty sharks!
BR should sell all the remnants of Rafa’s team and build his own team. That would be his legacy. None of the players from the Football League Manager Purslow/Hodgey era is left bar Joe Cole. Kenny’s players like Carroll, Downing, Jordan will be impossible to move without writing off a stadium size £35m. He should dismantle this team and build in his own image. Then we will see if he is as good as he claims he is and FSG thinks he is. LFC is a different beast compared to Swansea/Chelsea Reserves where there are zero expectations.
I’m guessing you’d be in the group of supporters Brendan Rodgers called the 3rd group.
First off, a big thank you to TAW lads for another fantastic listen!
I’ve been wanting to leave a comment on Andy Carroll for a while and I think this week it fits well, as some of what I feel was mentioned in this podcast.
I wasn’t too thrilled with Andy’s performance for us in the beginning, but over the season he has tremendously grown on me and I think he deserves a chance in this new era under Brendan Rodgers and I would hate to see him be disregarded and just shipped out, loaned or benched without a proper chance to prove his talent and grow under BR.
Looking at what BR has said, or how he has been sold to us, what has been written/said about his style of play/managing, and what characteristics he is looking for in LFC players, the loud screams for Carroll to be dropped from the team (in whatever form) seem a bit harsh and don’t quite match up, in my opinion.
From what I have gleaned about BR, his style, the player he wants for LFC, etc, is a young lad, talented, who shows he is hard working and a fighter (or warrior) ready to give all for Liverpool and a team player. We’ve all read/heard much about his 4-3-3 and Tiki Taka style, but I would say as many times as these two have been mentioned it was said how wonderfully players respond to BR as a person and his training/managerial skills. It has been said how players love playing for him and he has been lauded for his ability to teach players new styles, new ways and how well they flourish and progress in their abilities and talents under his wings.
Now, when Andy Carroll came to Anfield the ridiculous price tag on his shoulders plus his injury, made for a very heavy burden and he had to take a lot of stick and shite from many supporters (including me). And I think, he handled it pretty well. He didn’t give up, started working harder, and slowly over time showed his dedication, his team player quality and more qualities. In many games toward the end of the season, where he was allowed out of the lone target man role and more involved in bringing the ball in and linking up with the other players I really liked what I saw from Andy, and we played better than in many other games.
His initial or most obvious talent may be that of the big target man, but I think there is more to be carved out of him by the right kind of manager, and I think Andy is ready to learn more. I would like to think with the right kind of coaching he could become the next Miro Klose. Klose started out as a great header (and a pretty late bloomer). He then realized he needed to be more versatile and become better with the feet, so focused on that, and has gradually over the years worked on building and improving. That he is still always featured in Germany’s young squad despite his age is, because Jogi Löw knows he is a top notch team player (which Mario Gomez is not so much) and he works extremely hard to chase down every ball, bring it up, rather than just loom in the box for that perfect opportunity.
I’d like to think, that a BR can help Andy Carroll improve his skills in a similar way Klose did, when he decided he needed to improve, if indeed BR is such a great manager with young players we’ve been told and fully hope. I think Andy has the stamina, the will power, the fighting spirit, and certainly the team player character. And at a bare minimum, I think from all the young players that were brought in he at least deserves a chance to prove himself and the opportunity to be taught by BR and improve his talent. After all, just we are promising this opportunity it to any other young player at LFC or those we are trying to entice to come to Anfield.