Neil was joined by Gibbo and Mike Nevin up the tower as they discussed the ever-changing situation with Luis Suarez.
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A typically measured discussion by the lads.
My view on Suarez is that Real Madrid have already discussed a move with player and agent and, personal details agreed upon, instructed Luis a little while ago to begin the process of agitating for a move, which we’ve seen him doing this past week. It’s a tactic Real and Barca have both used in the past and which has proved effective, so no major surprise they’re at it gain.
Like most reds, ill be gutted to see Luis go but as Neil said, you can hardly blame a player for wanting to leave the 7th best side in England to join Real Madrid. It just saddens me that he appears to have ignored all the support the club and fans have shown him in past couple of years and decided to come out with all this garbage about photographers in his garden. I actually wouldn’t mind if he said: ‘I want to go to Real because they’re better than Liverpool and everyone in Madrid speaks Spanish”.
Up to club to spend the Luis money wisely, but as guys also said, we re going to struggle to attract players who are anywhere close to Suarez in terms of ability. David Villa may be worth a shout.
Graham Hunter’s analysis of this is excellent as usual. There’s something more tolerable about your player leaving for abroad than joining a rival in the EPL but Luis let himself down yet again by dishonoring those who stood by him even at cost to themselves. We must hold out against Madrid’s tactics & get the full asking price though. Unfortunately for Luis himself controversy is going to follow him regardless of where he goes.
I have seen almost all of the greats, from Di Stefano, Best, Cruyff, Dalglish to Messi, but I think Suarez is the most exciting and unpredictable player ever. He can do all that the greats have done, and more. But he appears to be a mild sociopath. He is a repeat offender, and seems to have no conscience. I can understand that he feels he doesn’t – and won’t – get a fair deal from the English press, but I believe he owes it to the club and the fans to stay, at least one more well-behaved season. He could ease his departure by swearing undying love but saying he can’t take any more, and we would understand, but there is no sense of that in his alleged statement. When Torres went, I think we all understood that he may have been frustrated by things, but he destroyed all our good will by his crass comments about going to a bigger club to win things. Suarez has now plummeted to that level in my estimation.
Wonderful footballer, though.
Agreed this was an insiteful and measured discussion, although I have to say, maybe a bit too measured for my liking. I do find it strange that even now, no one really utters a critical word against Suarez…and the criticism was intrinsic in what Gibbo said around transfers being a PR battle. He sited the contrast between Xabi and Macherano; monumental in the Xabi’s deal was the laser like focus Xabi had on not fucking over his current employers…Madrid pulled out all the dirty tactics, but interview after interview Xabi kept up the front….’I have a contract with Liverpool, I’m happy here…blah blah’. I felt like Rafa or someone had said, ‘right you’re going to Madrid, but work with me here and play the game so we can get as good a fee as possible’ and low and behold we got 30 mil for him. Mascherano, who was/is at least as outstanding in his role said things like he’d never play for the club again or whatever and we got 20mil. And these things are important, Xabi, in the same way as Ian St John or an Ian Rush will therefore always have an associatation with the club. this even relates to an ability to generate an income long after your playing days are over (book launches, Masters, TV appearances or whatever)…Torres or Owen could never have any of that. So guys what Suarez has done with his outbursts is certanly cost the club in any transfer dealings, yet it’s still ‘oh that Suarex, he such a rascal’.
And one more thing, and this is important, could we please have a moratorium on describing Suarez as mentally strong, if I could only use one adjective to describe Luis Suarez character, it would be mentally weak, he has a destinct inability to learn from mistakes or even control himself on a pitch, literally the weakest minded player we’ve had in my opinion. Don’t know how you’re quantifying mental strength, but regardless, Suarez doesn’t have it.
jonny-blaze,
What are you talking about? Have you ever played any sport remotely approaching this level?
No matter what sport you play,if you move up even a couple of levels you get “sledging” constantly.Everybody does!That’s the game when you play any game at a higher level.
Remember Michael Owen against the mancs a few years ago?He was about 18 or 19.From the first minute every manc player was screaming at him.You little ****,you little****.He lost it and got sent off! And Owen was not prone to histrionics.No matter what I think about him.
So just reflect on what you say about Suarez.He’s been villified from almost his first game for diving and cheating.And most of it came from one particular source.But we won’t go into that.
Suarez has had a rough deal.From without Anfield and some people within Anfield!